2012-08-21 18:50 , edited 2012-08-21 18:51 by JamieDonut87
Lol its 25 METERS jackass so were both wrong but you are stupid for thinking its 20ft? Why dont you just land and get out? Fucking idiot. Get out seriously, youre embarrassing yourself
Im embarrassing myself? You're crying that ECM doesnt work and that it shows clearly you cannot perform evasive manoeuvres!
Why do I have to land and get out? I know what Im doing, I dont fly high so that Im a target for anyone with a stinger etc.
Plus, its a public forum, so unless a moderator bans me (for which there is no reason)......you have no right to tell me to get out.
Find an empty server, get a friend and practice!
.....what forum signature?
I don't care if I was wrong, you're making an issue with something that isn't there. I suck? I don't fly as much as I used to. Stats don't mean anything...its for people like you who have nothing to do but brag. What is a peon?
Just face it, yes you're good at the flying and killing bit, but evading a lock, you are not so good at.
.....what forum signature?
To be honest, I know what you are talking about with the ecm not stopping missiles and sometimes letting locks go through, but its never gotten to a point with me where it happens a ridiculous amount of times in a single game or in a couple of games in a row. I'm thinking its probably just a lag issue.
2012-08-21 19:22 , edited 2012-08-21 19:24 by PopeJohnPaul_II
Theres nothing wrong with the ECM. Its you who doesnt know how to evade!
1.26 kd lol
1.3 w/l lol +1
You don't know jack sonny. Don't speak to a hardened vet like that.
Yofacemyballs is right- the ECM jammer is broken. Trust me. B-U-R-O-K-E-N.
Do you think he saw us?
its not broke.
its got a delay when you let it off it doesnt go off untill 2 seconds later.
by that time your allready locked onto
you have to let it off really fast.
has soon has you here the lock-on
Lol it's fine, in the jet at least..Just gotta be quick..Any lag the in server can stitch you up rarely with the locking notification but do you really want to be invincible?.. The fact that you don't even know how to use ecm to avoid a fired rocket shows you don't now what you're talking about. Just cry for dice to make it better they'll hear you ;)
I will give another example of how the ECM is broken. (At least in the chopper.) Say I ECM and lets say it was too late, albeit lag or just being slow to the trigger, you end up with a missile flying around your ECM cloud, okay. Sure. BUT when my gunner flares WHILST this is happening it should end the missiles journey around my chopper. BUUUUUT about 97% of the time after my gunner flares, we eat the missile. The combo between the two is flawed. Now what I believe, and what I agree with what he OP is saying is that, there is a serious issue that I find, (I hit the ECM AS SOON AS I HEAR ANYTHING LOCKING ON) Yet, the tracking continues, and then a hard lock ensues well after I have ECMed. I especially have this issue when playing against people overseas or outside of my area.
Do you think he saw us?
Given your articulate and respectful postings, I'm sure DICE will get right on your requested fixes.
I failed the Turing test.
2012-08-21 19:48 , edited 2012-08-21 19:49 by hlppopotamus
I haven't read this topic because it's garbage, but the ECM is absolutely broken. You get locked onto and there's a 50/50 chance a missile is coming at you when you ECM during the lock. And if it does come at you, it'll hit you if it's a stinger or if it's an AA missile it'll circle you till the ECM wears off. If your laser designated there is simply no escape.
ECM is totally screwed. It's a roll of the DICE everytime.
JamieDonut87 said:how do you "hit the deck" in a jet? And also if you wait for the missile to be launched you have about a 50/50 chance of it hitting you still. Ecm is not flares. Its designed to break locks which it does awful at. @ sparks. I know how to fly a jet and below radar is almost non existent in a jet considering the fact that you have to be 100 feet or below. And yea thats how battlefield is. Its a team game. The gunner should have to help in a heli. Look back at bc2 heli fights. It too actual skill to be good. Dice is leaning more and more towards lacklustered players as the franchise goes on
YoFaceMyBawwws said:Its not broke. You cant evade, thats the problem. The minute you depoly ECM, hit the deck, go between buildings/round cover/over a hill top etc, chances are, the missile will fly into whatever you passed over/round.
Dead-Sync said:I do everytime. The ecm is broke. And I use ecm because it's a lot more useful when going up against other good pilots. Fuck flares they're for vaginas
The ECM doesnt block locks the INSTANT you press the button. It takes a half a second or so for the countermeasure to deploy, so, if that person is less than half a second or so way from a tone before you deploy, theyll still manage to lock and fire. My suggestion is to just deploy the SECOND you hear the lock on tone.
If someone has a very fast lock on, maybe with beam scanning, it may even be impossible for ECMs to work properly if they fire off the missle fast enough. Thats why I just dont like the ECMs in general. They aren't broken, but they leave little opportunity to use properly sometimes.
If youre in mid air and the missile starts looping round you over and over, hit the deck before it starts a third loop, thats the trick!
Actually its not designed to break locks, its designed to keep you from getting locked onto in the first place.
Dont forget your pilot's helmet while flying your jet. It will keep you from licking the windows and will allow you to concentrate on not flying in a straight line directly at the gunship.
NO , it flat out doesn't work after the last couple of patches. Oh and WTF is with stinger's SOMETIMES taking you out or sometimes taking out half your health?! I believe also that they f#cked up the lock-on missiles and rocket launchers.
Bottom line, DICE needs to get their shit together!
DICE needs to do a final "END GAME" patch to fix all the damn bugs that the new DLC created. they really need to do a final balance of the game and get it right so that players actually want to buy BF4.
currently im not interested in BF4 at all with the state that they have left BF3 in.
Grammar: the difference between “knowing YOU'RE shit” and actually “knowing YOUR shit”
You people are ridiculous.
IT'S A GAME!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!
If you start getting shot down in real life, now that's a problem, but you wouldn't start complaining to dice about that? It's not their problem you can't use ECM.