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STOP renting private servers!

Lag_KillzGaming
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2012-03-31 22:35 , edited 2012-04-01 00:10 by Lag_KillzGaming
...hit the 3 hour 45 min mark...bump

Come to find out EAs Security & Servers dept is not available during the weekend, but no one at the (866)543-5435 number knew that before transferring me and having to wait almost 4 hours for no one to pick up. Guess I'm glad I used my cell to call the 866 number again to have them check and see if anyone was even in the S&A dept while waiting on my land line...unfortunately I had 2 hours and 45 minutes of time in before making the second call…
mooseknuckle-rt
CA Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2012-04-01 01:13
Marticus100 said:
OP HAS BEEN UPDATED PLEASE READ THROUGH TO THE BOTTOM OF THE POST:

Guys in case people have missed the threads there are some serious issues going on right now that need to be resolved before ANYONE continues to rent private servers.

A: Servers are dissapearing. there have been several threads here recently with people saying their servers that they have paid good money for are simply dissapearing.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654347953653651/1/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]

B: It seems possible that servers are being removed because the admins are kicking players. yes you heard that right. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654624955045096/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]
(UPDATE: read below it appears this may not now be correct, but we are waiting on the resolution of this particular case)

C: From EA T&C it appears that they reserve the right to remove your server if you try to enforce other rules on your server such as weapon restrictions. (which considering the above thread seems a distinct possibility)

D: add onto both of the above EA's COMPLETE incompetence in dealing with the smallest issue and we are starting to have a serious problem here.

I would advise anyone considering renting a server to hold off at least until these issues start getting resolved.

UPDATE:


if you have lost a server without explanation or unfairly try this:

GekkogEaR said:
866-543-5435 this is the number....
call and give the info when needed, once they ask how to help ask to be transferred to the BF3 Rental Server Program Team..
keep in mind youll have to call 10 times minimum to find a adviser with a brain as it is EA. luckily i got someone with a clue the 6th time i called.

UPDATE 2:

OK Guys. futher to the information above there has been several other things come to light over the rest of the thread. i will try to cover them here.

1: there appear to be an issue currently which is causing Servers to go down / disappear.
this is not related to any breaking of rules / TOS this would appear to be simply a bug / glitch that EA are looking into.
hopefully this is the reason for the majority of 'missing' servers
source:

lucas8181 said:
I don't know that they are taking servers away due to people being kicked. At least, according to the security team we are allowed to, thus the kick/ban options. He told me that mine was down because of all of the changes I made. The servers go into a que and are restarted after major changes are made. That process took a while in my case so a temporary public server was in its place until it was back up. They are hoping to speed that process up over the next few weeks. This is also the reason that they are slowly introducing more servers instead of all at once. Its a new technology for consoles so they are still working out the details.

full thread here: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654347953653651. [battlelog.battlefield.com]

2: there is currently a lot of conflicting information regarding the TOS / Rules about running a server.
The rules state that dice do not allow certain situation to occur on the rented servers.

Please make sure you familiarise yourself with the full TOS here: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489672102481/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]

be aware that these rules only apply to RANKED servers.

3: As i have said above it would appear that in at least one case a server was removed due to a player getting kicked. and although in that case it may have been a missunderstanding it would seem that the rules are somewhat vague in this area.

For example. would kicking a player on a ranked server to make room for a team mate or kicking the whole server in order to start a private match be covered under :
Creating a play environment which, by definition or action, creates an inflated scoring scenario
.

according to more that one EA representative the admin of a server is free to kick any player they like.

lucas8181 said:
A post from twitter:
can ADMIN ban anyone from their server for any reason?

@SgtEyedea YES. SERVER ADMINISTRATORS CAN KICK AND BAN PLAYERS FROM THEIR SERVERS.^SA
53 minutes ago

Eyedea‏@SgtEyedea

@Battlefield So i wont get in any trouble if i kick,ban a player i dont like?

@sgteyedea Your server your rules.^SA


Battlefield via twitter seems to disagree. I also spoke with the security guys today. They told me the exact same thing.


That being said it would be nice to have an official release on both the current state of the afore mentioned glitch and maybe some clarifications on the rules surrounding kicking players and what would result in you loosing a server.

I would also like to know what the investigation procedure entails and reassurance that the admin of a server will at very least have Advinced warning / the orrortunity to correct any mistakes in a server setup PRIOR to them losing their server / money.

phew i think thats everything.

you CAN kick people for being disruptive, violating the ToS

you CANNOT kick people for breaking your made up pussy rulesf
BASSMEANT_RAW
Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-04-01 01:31
no mic?
kick.

pussy ass auto shotty/frag rounds?
kick

we need a slot because someone from friends list logged on?
kick

the other clan logged on and now is the time for us to start organizing the clan battles for the evening even though the match is only halfway done and there are a bunch of randumb casuals still playing?
kick

see you guys always fall back to "i just killed a guy and then i got kicked so it must be cuz im too good" when in reality nobody knows who the hell you are or what you are doing and there are TONS of other folks on the friends list who are WAY more important then you are and have been for years.
you just got here from cod, boi. you don't matter.

our room, our rules. no ez mode casual training wheel bullshit.
and let's face it...

without the mini map and red dots and regen health, you would get mauled anyway.

This is the closest the bf series has come to actually being a bf series game since bf2.

most of you nerds haven't been gaming long enough to know that.

you silly milkfed codbois.

Peace
B
Threeheadedtoad
US Enlisted: 2011-11-07
2012-04-01 01:48
BASSMEANT_RAW said:
no mic?
kick.

pussy ass auto shotty/frag rounds?
kick

we need a slot because someone from friends list logged on?
kick

the other clan logged on and now is the time for us to start organizing the clan battles for the evening even though the match is only halfway done and there are a bunch of randumb casuals still playing?
kick

see you guys always fall back to "i just killed a guy and then i got kicked so it must be cuz im too good" when in reality nobody knows who the hell you are or what you are doing and there are TONS of other folks on the friends list who are WAY more important then you are and have been for years.
you just got here from cod, boi. you don't matter.

our room, our rules. no ez mode casual training wheel bullshit.
and let's face it...

without the mini map and red dots and regen health, you would get mauled anyway.

This is the closest the bf series has come to actually being a bf series game since bf2.

most of you nerds haven't been gaming long enough to know that.

you silly milkfed codbois.

Peace
B
Missed the whole point, didnt you?

I hope this gets sorted out before Xbox gets this....
Dont take anything too seriously, especially yourself.
CyberRec0n
US Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-04-01 01:50
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iisthestig
AU Enlisted: 2011-11-03
2012-04-01 03:53
more people effected means more notice by EA, you want to get this addressed you need to make it a real problem for EA.

start by complaining about every private server out there, I don't know how it's done but if others did it to you it is probably easy. if they just ban before investigating this will cause them problems.

try and get all the private servers closed/banned. this will then create a real issue for EA and something the media would pick up on.

It might sound harsh but if they are going to Fcuk your shit up, do it back.
Blueflyer83
US Enlisted: 2011-11-12
2012-04-01 03:58
There is not a chance in hell that I would waste money on "renting" a server. Its not practical and doesn't benefit me in anyway...or anyone else for that matter.
"Magpul, the unfair advantage."
CyberRec0n
US Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-04-01 04:54
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mauidakine420
Enlisted: 2012-02-18
2012-04-01 05:14
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx [ic3.gov]

^^^Fbi internet fraud center.maybe a bunch of complaints and theyll do something...
ZAMBEAN
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2012-04-01 05:23
I like how i get banned for killing the owner of the server more than once (: and how do you rent a server? it wont let me select a region SAD FACE
Ump is overpowered. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654490002181197/
CyberRec0n
US Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-04-01 06:40
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