hack-accusations and power trips

or hackusations, if you will:

Anyone else tired of trying to get an extreamly obvious hacker off of a server with admins on atm, or with voteban, and it just not working?

I've played several servers today, and so far every single one of them had at least one obvious hacker going 20 something to 3 or whatever, and every time you quietly snuck up on him/her and went to line up your shot... as you rounded the corner he/she AUTOMATICALLY had you, and in 3 or less shots had you down before you could even begin to press the trigger? I mean he/she isn't even looking in my direction, they just snap around.

Then you go to warn the server admins/clan admins about it, BAN-HAMMER! Reason: Hackusations.

I recently got my first ever ban from bf3 (that I know of), and it was because I tried to warn them about it? It wasn't like my clan mates and I were going after a skilled player or something, it was obvious. The guy had the reactions of a hummingbird on (appropriate illicit drug)! And yet my friends and I are the one's banned?

The maturity level of the administrators is rapidly going down hill. It's always been out there that a few servers had owners that let their children do the admin'ing (joking here ;) ), but the percentage is going up at an astounding rate. I'd say of all the servers out there right now, 40% or so (ballpark figure there) have server admins that have the maturity level of a 5 year old. I mean the rules they come up with basically are there for power tripping.

Rules like:

No Hackusations
No sniping from spawn
No 320s
No Explosions
No killing, flag run only (this one is flagrantly trying to get bans, I mean this is bf3 not (appropriate chill game)
No killing with (insert weapon/gun)


I mean, it's gotten to the point now with the amount of "stupid" rules that, it's obvious the age range and/or maturity level of administration is getting at an all time low!

tl';dr

I'll say this:

Don't bother. Even if you provide proof, they will still lock the thread.

Inmate001-Vi said:
at least one obvious hacker going 20 something to 3 or whatever,

rofl
wait ill get my magic glassball out....
you have 0,91 kd or less.

I do that all the time. If someone spots you or you show up on the minimap, I just turn around and pre-fire.

edit: LOL last poster called it.

20-3 is not a difficult score.
Also if you go behind someone we can hear your footsteps a mile off.
Example Grand Bazaar rush I can hear the tank in the spawn from the 3rd set of mcoms.

But apart from that I agree with the rest, servers where you cant use certain weapons or do certain things are stupid.
If a team gets them self's into a position where they are on the back foot that is their own fault, if they don't want to work to change their fortune then they deserve to be base raped.

Proven fact once all flags are taken losing to change to snipers because they are too lazy to do any work.

I'm going to be as gentle as possible with this: If you've been on several servers today and have seen at least one hacker in each of them, you don't know what you're talking about. Do hackers exist? Undoubtedly. Are there so many hackers in this game you will find multiple hackers in multiple servers per day? No effing way.

Just because people are railing you doesn't mean they're cheating. You may just have an inflated opinion of you and your friends' skill. You've played nothing but CQ today and CQ is about two things: twitch reflexes and accurate hipfire. Meatgrinders like CQ are where noobs go to get exposed. I'd love to take the high road and not say you're bad, but a guy with a 340-ish SPM with a .7 K/D (540 SPM and .9 K/D if we're being charitable) isn't really in the position to differentiate between hacks and skill.

Am I the best player? No, but I know where my faults lie and I'm actively working on those. I've also played with and against some of the best BF3 players. I can tell the difference between a hacker and good player. You, on the other hand, seem to be chasing ghosts because you don't know what real skill looks like.

-MT20 said:
20-3 is not a difficult score.
Also if you go behind someone we can hear your footsteps a mile off.
Example Grand Bazaar rush I can hear the tank in the spawn from the 3rd set of mcoms.

But apart from that I agree with the rest, servers where you cant use certain weapons or do certain things are stupid.
If a team gets them self's into a position where they are on the back foot that is their own fault, if they don't want to work to change their fortune then they deserve to be base raped.

Proven fact once all flags are taken losing to change to snipers because they are too lazy to do any work.

Then you have one hell of a good luck run, as I can't hear anything if it's in the 180 degrees that could be considered your 6 ;). I've tried everything to hear someone behind me, and it just doesn't work. I even bought a sound card, didn't work. Sound's incredible now, but still can't hear anything behind me.


And you're right about lazy snipers at the end of a round in which they are getting base rapped... hell it doesn't even need to be the end of the round lol.

But yea, my stats have nothing to do with this ;). I know i'm not as skilled as a good many players. And 20-3 IS a hard thing to get. I"m sorry, but if you're anywhere near going 20 kills more than the next best person on the server and there are some damned good players on... and noone not even the one's you KNOW are gods among men can touch them. Something's more than just fishy ;). Especially when you know said player is a god, and he's perfectly capable of getting high scores and kdrs, like a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio... in full servers with great talent on them... well, if that player can't touch the "hacking" player, then you know for a fact he or she is cheating somehow. Be it aimbotting, wall-hacking, god-mode/no-damage mode, or some other cheat.

And it's even more obvious when they go 20-3, and it isn't in a jet/chopper ;). I mean 20 to 3 is HIGHLY improbable to get to, especially in a high player, normal ticket server ;). And when it's happening in 3 or more servers in a row is when you start to notice that this game has been severely hacked, and this little fear of releasing code for a public game mod tool set is mute, VERY mute indeed! (You guys are already so hacked it's not even funny ;). )


But I mean, come on. Why is it you can't point these obvious cheats out without getting banned? The only reason I can think of is they are people with the emotional maturity of a 5 year old.

Ok, and as far as my stats reflecting my ability to detect hacks, son, I've been playing first person shooters since the days of doom. I KNOW a hacker when I see them ;). I'm no idiot. My stats reflect the fact that I'm relatively new to bullet drop and vehicle warfare. I suck because of that, and I have a cheap mouse, and don't take (certain reflex boosting illegal drugs).

I'm an average player. I only get to play on the weekends for the most part (except maybe a few minutes at night), because I work for a living son!

Please do not patronize me because I don't have the stats of a god ;), hell I've been around since you were probably in you're mother's womb.


I'm just sick of trying to play and have a bit of fun, only to have it ruined because of 2 things, hackers and admins who refuse to ban them.

Yea I go play else where, but then you have to take the time to search for another server with the specific thing's you're looking for.


So before you accuse someone of not having the right to accuse someone of hacking, or not being able to tell the difference between a highly skilled player and a hacker, PLEASE do us a favor and don't go on stats ;). Stats mean nothing, except to expose hackers (2000spm, 10:1 kdr, etc all showing how much they hack heh)

So I DO know what I'm on about here. It's one thing when a player can snap-shoot ya a few times in a long round, it's another thing for it to happen over and over and over, especially on high player count server. It's one thing for a player to have you on the mini-map because you got spotted and prefire. It's another thing when you know you've not been spotted cause you just spawned into an area with no other players, and then as soon as you round the corner, INSTANT headshot, time and time again.

It's one thing to hear a tank a mile away, it's another for footsteps on a game that seems to only allow certain people to hear behind them ;).... which is rare it seems.

Ok, I know a thing or two about hacks in fps games ;). I give out kudos to the skilled players out there. I know I'm out skilled by a mile in most servers. But I also recognize the difference in high skill, and hacking ;).

youre just making yourself look worse and worse. 20-3 is nothing. get over it. get better or play something else.

I joined a server the other day, cq, and got kicked for using a shotgun lol, I only played cq to use my shotguns. Anyway totally agree on the cheats but 20-3 is very doable, even ive done it a couple of times and alot of the time go 20-4. Someone went 35-0, i wouldnt consider that to be that unusual apart from it was a cq server, so you should atleast die a few times..... think he was camping tho. Before the bans I was thinking there was a good 3-4 in a 64 player game, havnt played much since but it seems to have dropped a little

Edit: I also dont think the footsteps are that easy to hear in this game

For all the hacker haters i've got something special :D
Look at this unobvious player :D
+friend of mine found a good page if u have seen some suspicious players---so u can check them out
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/CoM/bf3.php?p=Inzhekt_mandy#playerid [team-des-fra.fr]

I also want to say it's not every server I join. I've joined several in the past few days that didn't have any hackers at all, and you could tell. There were the skilled ones at the top with a high kdr and/or high score... but you didn't get instant headshots as soon as you rounded the corner, they had to take the time to aim ya up, which isn't long granted, not at all... And they were twitchy players man, VERY hummingbird'ish, but even they had to aim up and take the time to turn when you started firing at their backs.

I useually end up at the middle or higher end of the score chart at the end of the round on these servers, and they can be high count servers :| .

OP's K/D=0.7 I don't know why you people try to justify your lack of skills by blaming it on hacks always.

20-3 is easy when playing with a good squad. You might get ressed 7-8 times easy, but instead of 20-11 you end up with 20-3 thanks to teamwork.

Sound depends on what sound settings are you using in-game. Ie, you should use Hi-Fi.

A easy way to spot a hacker is abnormal shots fired/shots hit ratio and headshot% per kill.

No, I know I have a lack of skills in this game ;). You don't even seem to have the ability to read Lux4ri.

(I know, tl;dr, and I have terrible grammar and spieling ;) )

But come on, at least skim the posts ;).

So what If I have a k/d of .7? SO WHAT? That just shows that I'm not able to play this game 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and that I didn't spend 5 billion dollars on the best equipment (keyboard and mouse, etc.)... I mean come on ;). I'm ok in getting owned by skilled players and will give kudos to those who give me legit grief. But when a player is obviously hacking, and you try to tell the admins about it and get banned? Come on.


guess I should add, that these 30-3 type players are not in a squad usually ;). That's part of what makes it so obvious. They aren't camping, they move a lot, and yet even the most skilled players can't touch them, or if they can it isn't often at all.

20-3 or whatever is EAZY ONLY in these conditions:

nothing but noobs on, I mean worse than me noobs
You're in a flying vehicle, sometimes even ground vehicles
You're hacking/cheating.
You and your friends are stats padding.

FimconteD said:
20-3 is easy when playing with a good squad. You might get ressed 7-8 times easy, but instead of 20-11 you end up with 20-3 thanks to teamwork.

Sound depends on what sound settings are you using in-game. Ie, you should use Hi-Fi.

A easy way to spot a hacker is abnormal shots fired/shots hit ratio and headshot% per kill.

Theres plenty of em, thing is theres no point arguing, just let them play there dirty deed if it makes em feel good, buy a new game n play that, at mo ive moved onto alan wake and magicka, also cs go arma and tf2. Thiis game has plenty of cheaters, n it wont change. If bf4 is the same world war crap and not futuristic I wont be buying it. Also if it has the sammmme crappy anti cheat

Inmate001-Vi said:
No, I know I have a lack of skills in this game ;). You don't even seem to have the ability to read Lux4ri.

(I know, tl;dr, and I have terrible grammar and spieling ;) )

But come on, at least skim the posts ;).

So what If I have a k/d of .7? SO WHAT? That just shows that I'm not able to play this game 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and that I didn't spend 5 billion dollars on the best equipment (keyboard and mouse, etc.)... I mean come on ;). I'm ok in getting owned by skilled players and will give kudos to those who give me legit grief. But when a player is obviously hacking, and you try to tell the admins about it and get banned? Come on.

What I'm trying to say is that everyone who kills you is not a hacker.

Inmate001-Vi said:
So what If I have a k/d of .7? SO WHAT? That just shows

...that you dont have the skill needed to accurately tell.
a 500 pound man wont be able to tell if he lost the 100m hurdles to a top sprinter or top sprinter on steroids.

a 500 pound man could tell, if he watched the games/race/et cetera enough to know a good time, from a great time, to a steroid induced time ;).

His accuracy is gd, and so is his spm, k/d could be low for many reasons

then again his spm n accuracy could be high for many reasons