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Fine Tuning Frostbite - Mouse lag etc Explained =D

Theseuskhan
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2011-10-28 23:41 , edited 2011-11-17 05:00 by Theseuskhan
The is a currently **in production** guide. It can change. This is aquired knowledge over 2 years of playing with Frostbite. This guide will not only explain to you why your feeling the effects that u do not like in Frostbite. It will also explain the factors that just are not explained elsewhere. I spent along time learning this engine threw long periods of testing on BC2 and MoH.

You will need one of these tools for Tutorial
Notepad++
Hex Editor Neo

Location of the config file:
C:\Users\Theseus\Documents\Battlefield 3\settings\PROF_SAVE_profile

Factors explained basic

Scheme0 = Foot Sense
Scheme1 = Tank / Turrent
Scheme2 = Jet / AIR
Scheme3 = Im guessing turret of stationary AT etc (Dice u are legends)

MouseSensitivity = Your actual mouse movement sense
Raw input = This disables mouse Acceleration

FlipY = With the appropriative number it flips the y axis of that vehicle Example : Jet invert atm is the right way round technically its not inverted. so if we change that around and ingame it becomes the right way on the menu.
FlipCameraY = With the appriative number from above, it flips the camera view ether third person or free view

The bottom Slider on Sense inside BF3 Is your Sense0scheme. Really confusing how they title it tho as it affects Sense0scheme.

---- More Advanced.
Ok so i want to edit my Foot soldier Sense. I choose to go with Scheme0
So inside the config i find - Scheme0Sensitivity 1.000000

What is Scheme0Sensitivity ?
Ok to explain this quickly is the speed of your turn.

To give u a idea if i was to set
MouseSensitivity = 0.600000

No matter what i did to Scheme0Sensitivity the points on the mouse would always stay the same, The speed would be all that changes. Unless i adjust the MouseSensitivity the only thing id change is the speed. Raw input breaks this tho by accerlating the input. a true gamer never used mouse accerlation as he his brain must remember the speed in relation to the points on his desk aswell. A raw input on gamer only has to remember what points etc not the speed,

Here is some good config replicates :

Medal of Honor
MouseSensitivity = 0.620651
Scheme0Sensitivity 0.220000

BC2
MouseSensitivity = 0.598200
Scheme0Sensitivity 1.000000

Remeber these will change with your DPI, these are only approximates.

Good Jet Sense

Scheme1Sensitivity 96.00000
I like to fly fast.=d

Windows Settings

Enhance Pointer Precision = This little puppy will slow ur mouse sense down as u slow down. AKA negative acceleration, this can be found in Mouse Options, type Mouse into start bar. In windows 7 this is ENABLED by default
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There yar go epic eh. Frostbite can replicate ANY game on the planet. Cod , CSS etc , It is really a amazing bit of kit. I wish you the very best of luck and ill see you on the Battlefield. I hope this tutorial leaves you better off ingame.

These are not exact. These are based on hours of testing in order to find the best way to understand the way the game exactly works out the opposing sense factors. If anyone ever has a text book formula they would like to tell me id be very grateful.
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CutePoodles
Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2011-10-29 01:31
help please i have 1gb dedicated card paire with an intergrated that can turbo bosted to 1.5gb dedicated and its laggy on low settings with full resolution...help
boris317
Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2011-10-29 02:44
Wish I could "save/favorite" threads. Well this post will make it easy to find from my home screen. Thanks for the info.
Theseuskhan
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2011-10-29 02:45 , edited 2011-10-29 02:48 by Theseuskhan
SovietSeeker said:
help please i have 1gb dedicated card paire with an intergrated that can turbo bosted to 1.5gb dedicated and its laggy on low settings with full resolution...help

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489414124096/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]

these are basic tweaks, personally my game boots in 3-5 seconds and runs fine in high on a low end dx10 card + deo core. However i go far far beyound what is listed in their on my system tweaks. i literly tweak the living hell into my pc.

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Its np boris=) always happy to help.

There is a few settings im still mapping out the functions of but i reacon a couple more sick as ingame settings can be utilized to produce a higher level of skilled playing. That dam train on SP has had me run up and down it soo many times =d its one epic train. + i get to see Daniel Craig (its my testing corridor)
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Plunkies
Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2011-10-29 03:12 , edited 2011-10-29 03:20 by Plunkies
Edit: Nevermind, opened wrong file.
Theseuskhan
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2011-11-01 23:59
I have added up to this and everything else in the series a Video Tutorial. This goes in completley for the simple user how to implement any fix and explains each and every fix. It is to improve the general knowledge of Frostbites problems and also the general knowledge needed to fix them. Each one has been designed for the simple user.

Every thread has been tidyed up and now it is fully acceptable that im going to go and smash shit into this great title. If any user is still stuck i will aid them. Please do note tho there is AMPLE enough information contained within my Forum Series to fix any problem on Frostbite. I Literately, Honestly and seriously CAN NOT PLAY WHEN OTHER PEOPLE CANT. This is not me

Im not the dude who Skanks you and goes round a mates house, im not the dude who stands and watchs a bad situation unfold. Ive been willing to get my face smashed up for idiots, then im willing to not play BF3 for 2 weeks while i help users. I have however ENSURED that no user does not have the needed information to find there fix. Please enjoy. Cus im about to, in 5 minutes

Im really really going to enjoy myself.

I even saved a smoke for this special time to make it just that more special.

Thats my forum support tapped off. If anyone believes i have more to cover please let me know. I now start my bug testing stage of gaming. See you on the Battlefield Friends.
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Dipso
NO Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2011-11-04 03:35
Great guide, should be stickied.

Good to see some positive contributions to the community.
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Pois0ny
SE Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2011-11-07 05:13
This does not remove my negative mouse acceleration!

I've tried it all.

And I'm not a "newbie" on this.

Seriously, if I mouse my mouse really QUICK, the crosshair barely moves. But if I move my mouse SLOW, then it moves the way I want.

I've played Counter Strike for 10 years and I know how sens should be. No mather how you set these options, you cant get the sens you want. No mather how fast or slow I move my mouse I want it to be on the spot where it suppose to be. Simple.
Gheeta
FI Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2011-11-07 05:39 , edited 2011-11-07 05:40 by Gheeta
Pois0ny said:
This does not remove my negative mouse acceleration!

I've tried it all.

And I'm not a "newbie" on this.

Seriously, if I mouse my mouse really QUICK, the crosshair barely moves. But if I move my mouse SLOW, then it moves the way I want.

I've played Counter Strike for 10 years and I know how sens should be. No mather how you set these options, you cant get the sens you want. No mather how fast or slow I move my mouse I want it to be on the spot where it suppose to be. Simple.

Yep negative accel is still haunting the game, alltho there was a twitter post about next patch fixing it. And the really funny thing is the mousecontrol was fine in beta...
JoeRifle
DE Enlisted: 2011-10-29
2011-11-07 10:10 , edited 2011-11-07 10:34 by JoeRifle
Is raw input usable? the guy in the video suggest it, i find opposite though? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l916Tt-xveA [youtube.com]
nepumax
DE Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2011-12-13 19:50
TheseusKhan said:
Scheme2 = Jet / AIR

Good Jet Sense

Scheme1Sensitivity 96.00000
I like to fly fast.=d

So what is JET sensitivity, Scheme1 or Scheme2 ?...
Pezky
US Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2011-12-21 04:09
Great post, I've been trying to set up my mouse but Idk whats best since this is my 1st online FPS, Could you please give me a little piece of advice as to which is the best settings in terms of mouse sensitivity schemes, etc

ty guys in advance !
Bogesy
AU Enlisted: 2011-12-25
2011-12-28 00:39
can you guys please help me well on the main menu the sound is fine but when i go on multiplayer or single player the sound starts to loop and it repeats itself twice and it isnt my sound card or computer
SirSMKSAlOT
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2012-01-11 04:38
doesn't work.
I think we have found... the "Origin" of your problem. Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaah! "We know many of our players are frustrated, and we feel your pain," EA told IGN. "We will not stop until this is right." GOD NO!
Proutator
Enlisted: 2011-12-18
2012-01-27 09:11 , edited 2012-01-27 09:15 by Proutator
Hi all,

First, many thanks for this tuto which is really great.

Like some people i've fixed my Scheme1Sensitivity from 0.500000 to 96.00000 (also tested scheme2)
but the difference is bearly visible (i'm not sure there is a difference at all)
I would expect a huge modification of the joystick sensi.

Did somebody else try this settings ?

Thanks for your answers

Edit: i've only changed the PROF_SAVE_profile
didn't see what to do with the 2 other files....
Birka-01
UA Enlisted: 2011-12-22
2012-08-12 10:11
After last update origin, I have problem in gameplay, every 3 or 5 second or when some explosing happen delay or lags, before update every thing OK. What is the problem?
21CW_Nota
GB Enlisted: 2011-12-03
2012-08-12 13:24
Dear god, disabled Enhanced pointer precision and now I feel completly retarded. Will leave it disabled for a while to see if I can get used to it. Thanks anyways.
R.C.Speirs
DK Enlisted: 2011-10-31
2012-08-13 14:15
Uhm, isnt your numbers under Jet a bit off?

Scheme1Sensitivity 96.00000

Is this correct?
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Ireas2016
NZ Enlisted: 2012-04-14
2012-10-22 17:06
wtf? GstInput.Scheme0Sensitivity 0.000000 is Joystick GstInput.Scheme1Sensitivity foot sense and 2 is tank/jet/ all vehicle and all vehicle position....
Korvinshadow
RU Enlisted: 2011-12-10
2013-04-20 16:39
After the start of the game in the Battlefield mouse does not work right away, or stop working for few minutes. At that sight is slowly descend. Game responds to the mouse, but only in the horizontal plane and with a very low sensitivity. You can rotate a little bit horizontally and pull sharply if the mouse up, the camera will look at the zenith and then begin to descend. CAN NOT play. What could be the problem here? I have tried different mice and different driver, I tried to repair the installation of the game, nothing changes.
BF3 в общем счете - самая многопроблемная и глючная игра в истории.
 
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