Why all the hate for campers ?

There are so many times you see "No Camping" and moaning posts about campers but why ?

Seriously why is camping considered so bad.

If they want to sit in the same place for 20 minutes doing nothing but watch for the enemy getting in their sites before blasting them then whats the problem?

And no I don't do it myself, I like to run around with a shotgun on canals. I'm just curious to know why its so bad

I actually like the challenge of killing someone camping. (although they do normally get me numerous times first)

Views anyone ?

Unless you are playing death match camping is of little value to the team.

Camping does not support the team. It slows down progression thru-out the match.

Camper = 20 mins on flag C sitting in the corner.
Non-Camper = 20 mins running around capping flags, killing the enemy a few times and helping it's team by taking away tickets from enemy, therefore, leading to a Victory.

Thats why....

where are these complaints? all i see is complaints about the ac130

I don't hate camping, it can be a good strategy. But I find it very boring. I don't like spending time just sitting behind a rock and waiting for people, not my idea of fun. I don't mind others doing it though.

Beats me!!!
In real life soldiers camp all the time right!
It would be fun with everyone camping and no one playing the objective right!!
I totally agree with you.. :p

WarMach1n3s said:
Camping does not support the team. It slows down progression thru-out the match.

Camper = 20 mins on flag C sitting in the corner.
Non-Camper = 20 mins running around capping flags, killing the enemy a few times and helping it's team by taking away tickets from enemy, therefore, leading to a Victory.

Thats why....

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Flag capturing, yes right understandable but what if the camper is the one defending the flag.

I understand what you are saying, I'm mostly on Death Match so not really give that a thought.

murderdoll82 said:
Beats me!!!
In real life soldiers camp all the time right!
It would be fun with everyone camping and no one playing the objective right!!
I totally agree with you.. :p

hardcore

its not camping its tactics

From a team point of a view:

Camping is using 10 % of the posibilites you have to help the team win (conquest).
Campers will never take a risk to revive someone
Campers don't protect the flag, they are waiting to unfairly take out honest players who PTFO.
Campers "protect" (lol) a small part of the flag usually. Campers prefer to camp out of the flag so they can be unoticed.
Campers will stay in their camp position meanwhile the enemy is taking the flag.

A lot of campers don't even camp right, they don't use recon and TUGS.

Campers only care about their K.D (or troll), win/loss doesn't matter.

From a PTFO player point of view:

Campers kill you without any merit, in a fair 1 and 1 against a normal BF player, they will probably never win once.
Campers steal kills from people all the time.

i guess there's a lot more negative stuff about them that i can't think about right now.

Basically, campers are useless players that ruin the game. They ruin the game for their team, they ruin the enemy victory, by taking cheap kills.

I camp on the building on Kharg in between B and C or the building around the middle of A and B and spot people whilst guarding B or C.

I'm a good camper!

Moonfall-Melody said:
I'm a good camper!

lol

when i use recon i use my knife only silent & deadly

Neokayl said:
From a team point of a view:

Basically, campers are useless players that ruin the game. They ruin the game for their team, they ruin the enemy victory, by taking cheap kills.

I see from all of your points that you obviously don't like campers but surely most of your points are on a very narrow point of view as they are mainly about PTFO.

In real life, soldiers do dig themselves in and wait for the enemy to cross their path.

I'd like to see someone have a go at the all of the countries special forces regiments, saying they were scum :)

What i dont get is the guys who play Rush and send you msgs saying 'Camping little bitch. back to cod'

its RUSH.... Attack and DEFEND???

if im in a corridoor stopping you from running straight into the mcom... im clearly defending. n doing a good job of it for you to msg me.

get a grip and get around me or try something new... just running out infront of me with your gun when iv set up an MG nest with a Bi-pod and M240 isnt gonna cut it.

(obv when i say you i mean that one guy)

And this game, constantly camping in the area where we can't come, yes the 42-0

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/64119912/4/307916677/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]

that was a constant sniper from over 500

OP dont bother too much with posters thinking they know what they talking about.. every opinion on against it was made by noobs who has obviously never played a sponsored league in their lives but thinks they have a valid point, being mere casual gamers.

Camping is essential in any competition matches when you need to keep a choke point to prevent enemy coming through to the objective. Leagues are based on winning, not who can make the most points.

Again, those that dont agree are all just casual noob gamers (regardless of their rank) , especially Neokayl.. he is the biggest noob of them all

Campers are so lame, one of my friends friend is the biggest bitch camper I've ever seen, he goes prone in corners, in boxes, in brushes, in little hidden spots aiming down sight just waiting for an unsuspecting victim to get shot down.

Campers have been hated in a lot of games for a long time, they are useless, they spend $60 on a game only to sit in a corner or in a box, whats fun about that?

R3CO249 said:
What i dont get is the guys who play Rush and send you msgs saying 'Camping little bitch. back to cod'

its RUSH.... Attack and DEFEND???

if im in a corridoor stopping you from running straight into the mcom... im clearly defending. n doing a good job of it for you to msg me.

get a grip and get around me or try something new... just running out infront of me with your gun when iv set up an MG nest with a Bi-pod and M240 isnt gonna cut it.

(obv when i say you i mean that one guy)

Yep, thats more or less my point of view, I can't see the problem myself if someone likes to camp and I like the challenge of trying to get around them somehow rather than run straight at them.

Ok so I end up getting killed a couple of times trying but feel fantasic when I do get them. Then its lets start the challenge again.

Mind you, I do think its funny when you see the same person running back to the same place to do it all again.

Captain67 said:
Unless you are playing death match camping is of little value to the team.

Rush -> defenders camp the objective
Conquest -> campers defend the capture points

So yea ...... You must be moron.

becasue its people like them that makes games of AK very boring.

Campers should automatically banned.
Or if someone's camping for too long make ants crawl on the player and do 2 damage a second.

Personally I love campers, I get to wipe the crusty poo off my bum all over their face once I've taken their tags

T Bag for the win

For me the acceptability of camping depends on the class you play with if your playing with Recon with a long range set up you cant go on a fun run round the map spilling blood you need to camp to some point.
apart from flag guarding I cant see why any of the other 3 classes would need to camp.
I tend to move very slowly round the map when I play Recon staying in one place for a few kills then moving on spotting and killing along the way but i tend not to play Recon that much as I like the action.
I do agree with the comments about team support the game is based on team play and requires everyone to do there bit to secure victory.
Remember there is a kill cam that gives away where your killer is

There are many kinds of camping... the soldier that camps far away (like the Caspian Border antenna) just to try a long headshot, forgeting (or don't caring) to spotting enemies... this kind I agree that sucks.

But the soldier that camps defending a flag (mainly in Close Quarters) or a M-COM it's very usefull to the team... but he needs to be very good doing that.

The Close Quarters strategic guide indicates that the most effective way to win is to defend some strategic points, like the stairs on Alfa flag on Donya Fortress... is this camping? I don't believe so...

About campers I prefer to think that they kill me once and then I know where he is... so, the advantage is with me now... and I go there to kill him (better if I can stab him).

opeyuk said:
For me the acceptability of camping depends on the class you play with if your playing with Recon with a long range set up you cant go on a fun run round the map spilling blood you need to camp to some point.
apart from flag guarding I cant see why any of the other 3 classes would need to camp.
I tend to move very slowly round the map when I play Recon staying in one place for a few kills then moving on spotting and killing along the way but i tend not to play Recon that much as I like the action.
I do agree with the comments about team support the game is based on team play and requires everyone to do there bit to secure victory.
Remember there is a kill cam that gives away where your killer is

and then they are outside of our map borders

opeyuk said:
For me the acceptability of camping depends on the class you play with if your playing with Recon with a long range set up you cant go on a fun run round the map spilling blood you need to camp to some point.
apart from flag guarding I cant see why any of the other 3 classes would need to camp.
I tend to move very slowly round the map when I play Recon staying in one place for a few kills then moving on spotting and killing along the way but i tend not to play Recon that much as I like the action.
I do agree with the comments about team support the game is based on team play and requires everyone to do there bit to secure victory.
Remember there is a kill cam that gives away where your killer is

So if I see a tank with its engineer posse as a support/assault class I'm expected to not get down and camp a position till I feel the area is safe? I'm to just run and gun at them? 0.0

Well that logic explains your low K/D ....

Also no kill cams in hardcore .....

Also the bit about recon? You must have never ever played aggressive recon because you're already too trash with the other classes.

yes that is annoying when they are outside our map border
yes i see your point on the tank thing yes but your not sat there for like 20 min hiding i would sneak away or try to take out the tank
i was giving my option on camping I dont play aggressive recon no not with a sniper rifle im not claiming im fantastic at the game i just like playing it.
you need to remove that bug from your ass

ilpazzo2912 said:

murderdoll82 said:
Beats me!!!
In real life soldiers camp all the time right!
It would be fun with everyone camping and no one playing the objective right!!
I totally agree with you.. :p

hardcore

Thats not camping if he is helping keep a flag as long as he dosen;t spend 20 minutes on that one flag just sitting there hoping to see a enemy. Its real bad when there camping and no one flag is held becaue there are to many snipers/campers sitting back waiting and not capping. With my luck I usualy get stuck on a team of sniper/campers that don't play the objectives and we lose every round becuase of it. I resently had a game where I was 16,130+ in points and the closest guy on my team was 6 or 7000 in points becasue they just camped and would not play the objective and I was not driving tanks or anything I was basicly just going flag to flag on foot and capping them but one person can;t hold a flag by him self against 4 or 5 enemy so we lost.

I have to admit to camping occasionally on Caspian Border when fighting a good team. Equip gun with suppressor, get to C, hide on the rock area behind sandbags (the rock will take you outside of the capture Radius), when it starts being capped, i move up to sandbags and contest flag. If it continues to be capped i know there is > 2 people there, if it stops i wait for him to run around tryiing to find me, when he stops or is in the open i kill him/them.