DiamondPhoenix

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2011-10-27
2012-09-19 21:42 , edited 2012-09-20 04:40 by DiamondPhoenix
I want to know this because if I want to try and see if I can become good with those weapons. I am excluding pistols from this.
Please state which gun(s) you think are rather difficult to use and why.
Edit: I've read your responses, and the two main guns I keep seeing are the G3A3 and the FAMAS. I'll try those first. Keep the responses coming!!
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ItsBoomify
Enlisted: 2012-07-06
2012-09-19 21:45
USAS 12 with buckshot, LSAT, and g18 supp.
Kudaku
Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-09-19 21:52
I'd say the FAMAS and the G3A3 are two of the harder guns to use, in completely different ways.
The FAMAS struggles with a horrible reload time and limited magazine size, which means you really need to learn to manage the extreme RPM of the weapon or you'll find yourself dying a lot with your ass hanging out, trying to survive the 3.9 second reload time.
Somewhat similar, the G3A3 balances excellent bullet damage with a limited magazine and a very low RPM. You have to make each shot hit to make this rifle work for you.
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Coup_d3_grace
Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-09-19 22:02
FAMAS (AR), TM-88 (LMG), SG553 (Carbine).
My god, the sg553 can burn in hell for all eternity. The 50 more rpm is not worth the horribad right pull and inaccuracy compared to aks74u/qbz-95.
TheShrapnelKing

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2011-10-25
2012-09-19 22:22
The PDWs are just woefully shitty - every other weapon I can think of is better than them, except shotguns at longer ranges and sniper rifles at shorter ranges.
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DANNYonPC

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2011-11-11
2012-09-19 23:17
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Coup_d3_grace
Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-09-19 23:29 , edited 2012-09-19 23:29 by Coup_d3_grace
TheShrapnelKing said:
The PDWs are just woefully shitty - every other weapon I can think of is better than them, except shotguns at longer ranges and sniper rifles at shorter ranges.
M5K, MP7 and AS VAL disagree. Firmly.
Stockrobbin

Enlisted:
2012-04-19
2012-09-19 23:52
g3a3 isnt hard to use its only people dont like it cause you actually have to aim..
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dr3wh0nda97
Enlisted: 2012-02-05
2012-09-19 23:54
PDW's are difficult at first especially if your play style isn't up close and personal, but they aren't tough to get the hang of. Per class i would say that the toughest weapons are:
Assault: G3 can be a bitch if you can't master the recoil. I use underslung and Fsupp. works phenomenally. I got a kill at a target from at least 250 yards away who was moving and jumping side to side with this setup so it definitely isn't gimped at range by any means. And FAMAS is definitely up there. A lot works against that gun. I don't even touch it so if you can master this more power to ya.
Engineer: The SIG is definitely a pain in the ass. The recoil is so different from almost any other gun its very difficult at least for me to use. Another one i would say is pretty tough to use is the G53. Rarely see it used probably due to the intense first shot recoil. I know for one I never get killed by these guns at all
Support: Not exactly an expert on this but I will say from observing, I think most people struggle with guns like the M60 due to its slow ROF and lackluster CQ ability. Fortunately however, most Lmg's appear to be pretty level in difficulty amongst each other.
PDW: PDWR is the toughest in the company of so many other options that outclass it in just about every way. It has a very strange cone of fire making medium shots a bit tough. UMP used to be useless but now packs the same punch as the G3A3 up close so at least it now has that going for it.
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TheShrapnelKing

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2011-10-25
2012-09-19 23:58
Coup_d3_grace said:
TheShrapnelKing said:
The PDWs are just woefully shitty - every other weapon I can think of is better than them, except shotguns at longer ranges and sniper rifles at shorter ranges.
M5K, MP7 and AS VAL disagree. Firmly.
An AR is better than all those weapons.
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CDNRedneck

Enlisted:
2011-11-15
2012-09-20 00:58
Scar-H, G3A3, Bolt Actions /Thread
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TheShrapnelKing

Enlisted:
2011-10-25
2012-09-20 01:03
AeX_j0k3r_triple said:
TheShrapnelKing said:
Coup_d3_grace said:
TheShrapnelKing said:
The PDWs are just woefully shitty - every other weapon I can think of is better than them, except shotguns at longer ranges and sniper rifles at shorter ranges.
M5K, MP7 and AS VAL disagree. Firmly.
An AR is better than all those weapons.
I disagree with shrapnel. An AS-VAL can outclass an AEK quick in short distances. As for longer ranges it depends on the user. MP7 and MP5 short range and Mid range kick ass but long ranges they suck. P90 is is straight nerfed up noob weapon and PDW-R works if you have the extended mag on and can aim good. So you sir you fail at the troll
Not trolling. You're mistaking the weapons' ideal range (close range) for being dominant at that range. They are good at close range, and can equal ARs and carbines at that range, but ARs still have bigger clips, are more accurate, and can be used at other ranges effectively. I honestly cannot think of a situation where i would take a PDW over, say, an AEK or the M416 - same results at close range, but can do mid range too.
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Snipur123

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2012-01-08
2012-09-20 01:05
FAMAS. i can't think of any other because they are all relatively easy to use
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Coup_d3_grace
Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2012-09-20 01:47 , edited 2012-09-20 01:53 by Coup_d3_grace
TheShrapnelKing said:
Coup_d3_grace said:
TheShrapnelKing said:
The PDWs are just woefully shitty - every other weapon I can think of is better than them, except shotguns at longer ranges and sniper rifles at shorter ranges.
M5K, MP7 and AS VAL disagree. Firmly.
An AR is better than all those weapons.
Nope. M5K has better hipfire accuracy and a quicker reload than the AEK (the only weapon that can equal its damage in CQ as an AR). The only AR that can out rof it is the FAMAS, which definitely has worse hipfire accuracy, a smaller mag, and is arguably worse at range than the M5K.
So yes, they are worse at range. But that hardly matters on CQ maps. Furthermore, specializing in a single area of combat > broad versatility, unless you're playing at a pro-lvl.