Cheat-o-meter

Hey all, I apologize if this has been asked before, but I searched and could not find the info I needed.

Recently a friend of mine I play BF3 with let me know he appealed a ban against me. I had no idea what he was talking about so I investigated myself. I went to PB Bans and and GGC bans and searched their ban lists for my name and GUID and could not find anything. I then came across this site:
http://cheatometer.hedix.de/ [cheatometer.hedix.de]

I plugged in my BF3 gamer name and loe-behold it says this:
other assessments 1 Bans, 0 Protections

Suspicious Stats
Class Weapon Stats Name Stats Value
GLOBAL - Kill-Assists-Percentage 4.11
Supporter M249 Headshot/Kill-Percentage 30.59

Now, I have no idea what any of this means, but how do I find out what this so called ban is even about?

I really could care less as I am not banned from playing BF3 nor will I ever be since I don't hack/cheat, but I would like to know what the above info actually means. Is it simply a "suspicion" thing or a legit ban placed against me for whatever reason? I do find that a 1 out of 3 kills a headshot kill considered suspicious....That's mostly laughable.

Everyone has those suspicious stats:

Cheat-o-Meter
M60E4 Headshot/Kill-Percentage 30.25
M27 IAR Headshot/Kill-Percentage 33.33

Not really a reason to ban you for those "suspicious" stats.

It is flawed,my m8 has suspicous stats on a weapon,he only used it once and had a lucky round with it.Now he is branded as suspicous by that site.

Checked mine,was clean.Must mean im crap at Bf3.

So, if I come across a game server and get a Game Disconnect message: Stated Reason: Hacking/Cheat, it most likely is because the admin of that server banned me from his/her particular server because he happened to come across my "suspicious stats" and banned me from his server simply because he/she "thinks" I might be cheating?

Wow, that was a run-on sentence...

Reason I ask is I came across one server in my favorites that I have played on since my BFBC2 days and the admin there recently banned me. I talked to my friends who still play on that server and the server admin's brother and the assessment is the admin simply banned me cause he thinks I cheat. Good reason I guess. but hey, to each his own.

Personally I don't put stock into any third party statistics scanner. No mathematical formula can compensate for my good judgement. The obvious exception to this can be PBBans and/or Metabans, but those have been established for a long time, and by this time work in tandem with games developers.

As for me...

Cheat-o-Meter said:
Suspicious Stats: Kill-Assists-Percentage 6.65

As for your ban, details can be found on Metabans here: http://metabans.com/player?i=2aS2 [metabans.com]
It appears to have come from "FOSS" whatever that means to you.
I think it's just a server admin who chose to ban you through Metabans in ProCon or something.

EDIT: It appears that FOSS is a group of people who ban based on stats accumulated through Metabans and the Cheat-o-Meter, and essentially making their own supplemental ban list. That seems a bit assuming of them, especially looking at the number of people they ban: http://metabans.com/FOSS [metabans.com]

Cheat-o-Meter is for the Admin who can't come up with enough evidence to ban someone so they plug your name into that and go hurr hurr caught ya. Metabans is just broken as a whole -_-.

Benevolenc3 said:
Cheat-o-Meter is for the Admin who can't come up with enough evidence to ban someone so they plug your name into that and go hurr hurr caught ya. Metabans is just broken as a whole -_-.

I couldn't agree more. PBBans is infinitely more reliable than stats-based bans.

cheat-0-meter says everyone that uses a LMG trypode that aims for the head a suspicious......
dont work unless you have 90% + headshot , then maybe its on.

I have no idea who or what FOSS is. I'm writing this off as a butt hurt admin.

And yes, it appears this FOSS person or group simply bans players based on a single stat. This does not ban them from playing per-say it just lists them.
http://metabans.com/assessment?i=dNP [metabans.com]


Funny.

Purpeltendire said:
Personally I don't put stock into any third party statistics scanner. No mathematical formula can compensate for my good judgement. The obvious exception to this can be PBBans and/or Metabans, but those have been established for a long time, and by this time work in tandem with games developers.

As for me...

Cheat-o-Meter said:
Suspicious Stats: Kill-Assists-Percentage 6.65

As for your ban, details can be found on Metabans here: http://metabans.com/player?i=2aS2 [metabans.com]
It appears to have come from "FOSS" whatever that means to you.
I think it's just a server admin who chose to ban you through Metabans in ProCon or something.

EDIT: It appears that FOSS is a group of people who ban based on stats accumulated through Metabans and the Cheat-o-Meter, and essentially making their own supplemental ban list. That seems a bit assuming of them, especially looking at the number of people they ban: http://metabans.com/FOSS [metabans.com]

What this guy says above. Their website is http://www.team.f-oss.fr/. [team.f-oss.fr]
Their server is http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/fr/servers/show/53456e94-01dc-4bfd-a53e-2ec141a8304e/FR-VeryGames-net-F-OSS-INF-AutoAdmin/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]
You can talk to them there about it.

These guys state they are using cheat-o-meter to assess people. If you have any suspicious stats they ban you, which is really dumb but there you go.
Cheat-o-meter is next to useless as a reliable assessment of someone cheating but it can point you to the stats that need further assessment. Your stats are not those of a cheater.

Madmins need to stop banning people on the basis of cheat-o-meter alone. It is DUMB.

Solution: Play on properly admined servers, such as ours.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

OhMy_DrDeath said:

Purpeltendire said:
Personally I don't put stock into any third party statistics scanner. No mathematical formula can compensate for my good judgement. The obvious exception to this can be PBBans and/or Metabans, but those have been established for a long time, and by this time work in tandem with games developers.

As for me...

Cheat-o-Meter said:
Suspicious Stats: Kill-Assists-Percentage 6.65

As for your ban, details can be found on Metabans here: http://metabans.com/player?i=2aS2 [metabans.com]
It appears to have come from "FOSS" whatever that means to you.
I think it's just a server admin who chose to ban you through Metabans in ProCon or something.

EDIT: It appears that FOSS is a group of people who ban based on stats accumulated through Metabans and the Cheat-o-Meter, and essentially making their own supplemental ban list. That seems a bit assuming of them, especially looking at the number of people they ban: http://metabans.com/FOSS [metabans.com]

What this guy says above. Their website is http://www.team.f-oss.fr/. [team.f-oss.fr]
Their server is http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/fr/servers/show/53456e94-01dc-4bfd-a53e-2ec141a8304e/FR-VeryGames-net-F-OSS-INF-AutoAdmin/ [battlelog.battlefield.com]
You can talk to them there about it.

These guys state they are using cheat-o-meter to assess people. If you have any suspicious stats they ban you, which is really dumb but there you go.
Cheat-o-meter is next to useless as a reliable assessment of someone cheating but it can point you to the stats that need further assessment. Your stats are not those of a cheater.

Madmins need to stop banning people on the basis of cheat-o-meter alone. It is DUMB.

Solution: Play on properly admined servers, such as ours.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

Thanks for the clarification DrDeath and thanks for the link to your server. I may play there sometime although it's a little high on the ping side for me. Thanks again though.

Purpeltendire said:
Personally I don't put stock into any third party statistics scanner. No mathematical formula can compensate for my good judgement. The obvious exception to this can be PBBans and/or Metabans, but those have been established for a long time, and by this time work in tandem with games developers.

Just to point out PBBans and GGC bans work on file integrity checks and screenshots. If you get banned by either of these you will be banned across all servers streaming to these. If you want to see what cheater screenshots look like, google GGC hall of shame.

Metabans , where OP is banned by Foss, is different and works differently. It is a way of sharing banlists between servers. You are NOT banned from all servers streaming to Metabans , only Foss's servers and any other servers following their banlist on Metabans (which isn't that many)

Ultimately, the responsibility for stupid bans rests with the server and admins that banned you. Go speak to them or, if it were me, I wouldn't bother and I'd just go play elsewhere.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

It's their choice to use cheat-o-meter. Innocent players will be removed too but it's the only way to reliably remove cheaters for good. Some people are fed up with cheaters only getting their stats reset and that's all that happens. It has come to this now.

I don't like it but i can understand them.

OhMy_DrDeath said:

Purpeltendire said:
Personally I don't put stock into any third party statistics scanner. No mathematical formula can compensate for my good judgement. The obvious exception to this can be PBBans and/or Metabans, but those have been established for a long time, and by this time work in tandem with games developers.

Just to point out PBBans and GGC bans work on file integrity checks and screenshots. If you get banned by either of these you will be banned across all servers streaming to these. If you want to see what cheater screenshots look like, google GGC hall of shame.

Metabans , where OP is banned by Foss, is different and works differently. It is a way of sharing banlists between servers. You are NOT banned from all servers streaming to Metabans , only Foss's servers and any other servers following their banlist on Metabans (which isn't that many)

Ultimately, the responsibility for stupid bans rests with the server and admins that banned you. Go speak to them or, if it were me, I wouldn't bother and I'd just go play elsewhere.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

I'm a PBBans Streaming Admin, I know how it works. :p I was just using it as an example of how unreliable things like this Cheat-o-Meter are.

Try a weapon for the first time kill 2 people with it. High precision, never touch the gun again.
You're now a patented hacker.
Biased stats sometimes^^

OhMy_DrDeath said:
Ultimately, the responsibility for stupid bans rests with the server and admins that banned you. Go speak to them or, if it were me, I

I went ahead and posted a message on their forums for my own peace of mind. I simply don't like being accused of something I don't or haven't done.

Hell, I even hate stat padding so much I won't even let you get that one EOD bot kill from me even if you are my friend. Earn that shit!

Listen guys, the only "Cheat-O-Meter" you need is ME.... Its a simple algorithm. If you score higher then ME... Your a cheater, plan and simple, thus banned. If you score less then ME, your good. If you tie ME, well, then youre Suspicious and worth further study, or maybe a ban if ME is busy.

Man you guys are so dumb LoL

Cheat 0 meter is brilliant.

It racks up ALL stats with the click of a button, and then YOU can make a judgement call on it .

So, instead of you going through EVERY one of the 100 weapons in the game, to see if you find the stats on it "suspecious" , cheat o meter just gives you the stats that COULD BE CONSIDERED "suspecious" .



35% headshot rate on LMG's can be called "fishy" or "suspecious" (in yellow, not even RED) . Since the best of the best players top out on headshot kill rate at 30% with ASSAULT rifles .

Now it's up to YOU to decide if you really find that particular stat fishy or not . Does he camp with a bipod in metro a lot ? Then 30 % headshot is not that weird. Does he play 64 TDM a lot with his M60 ?

Well, in that case you can bet your ass that 35% headshot is suspecious .

Also, if ONE metaban running admin bans you, this does NOT mean you are banned from every metaban server.

Before a full metaban ban, ALL your stats are examined very carefully . Find me an unjust FULL metaban , it should be really easy according to some of you .

Cheat o meter is an extremely handy tool to check ALL of the players stats with a single click. It then simply points out the stats that may be considered fishy, and then YOU can decide what to think of it.

Stop pissing on one of the VERY FEW defenses we have against cheaters.

Don't be stupid, and don't make a whine thread everytime you get banned by ONE admin

hundbert said:
It's their choice to use cheat-o-meter. Innocent players will be removed too but it's the only way to reliably remove cheaters for good. Some people are fed up with cheaters only getting their stats reset and that's all that happens. It has come to this now.

I don't like it but i can understand them.

It is their choice. But I would say it is very unreliable. They also state that if cheat-o-meter shows ANY suspicious stats , they ban. Sorry, but I can voice my opinion about using cheat-o-meter.

And apologies to Purpeltendire, you confused me by mentioning PBBans and Metabans in same sentence.

JingleMyBalls said:
Before a full metaban ban, ALL your stats are examined very carefully . Find me an unjust FULL metaban , it should be really easy according to some of you.

That is not actually true. Individual admins make their assessment and there is no way to verify how carefully they have examined a player's stats. Metabans,itself, DOES NOT assess you at all. Metabans , as an entity, does not look at bans issued by servers at all.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

I don't have anything to worry this cheatometer because I dont cheat. I guess those that are looking shady are probably sweating.

JingleMyBalls said:
Man you guys are so dumb LoL

Cheat 0 meter is brilliant.

It racks up ALL stats with the click of a button, and then YOU can make a judgement call on it .

So, instead of you going through EVERY one of the 100 weapons in the game, to see if you find the stats on it "suspecious" , cheat o meter just gives you the stats that COULD BE CONSIDERED "suspecious" .



35% headshot rate on LMG's can be called "fishy" or "suspecious" (in yellow, not even RED) . Since the best of the best players top out on headshot kill rate at 30% with ASSAULT rifles .

Now it's up to YOU to decide if you really find that particular stat fishy or not . Does he camp with a bipod in metro a lot ? Then 30 % headshot is not that weird. Does he play 64 TDM a lot with his M60 ?

Well, in that case you can bet your ass that 35% headshot is suspecious .

Also, if ONE metaban running admin bans you, this does NOT mean you are banned from every metaban server.

Before a full metaban ban, ALL your stats are examined very carefully . Find me an unjust FULL metaban , it should be really easy according to some of you .

Cheat o meter is an extremely handy tool to check ALL of the players stats with a single click. It then simply points out the stats that may be considered fishy, and then YOU can decide what to think of it.

Stop pissing on one of the VERY FEW defenses we have against cheaters.

Don't be stupid, and don't make a whine thread everytime you get banned by ONE admin

You are in the minority here. My ban is unjust. I talked to metabans and they are not responsible for bans. The only allow users to upload the ban lists to their platform for reference. And no one is whining here. I am simply asking legitimate questions based on an illegitimate ban. Metabans replied to my appeal with this:
"It was foss who banned your account and allowed metabans to upload the ban details so others can view the bans (METABANS) does no banning and it's not Metabans fault you were banned. its the stupid cheat-o-meter that users keep using to ban people just because they see stats that are better then theirs.."

So, you sir, based on your post, sound like one of those butt hurt admins out there that simply bans other players based on a single stat or the fact they are better than you. Basing your entire ban practices around one particular site like cheat-o-meter is foolish.

ohmy_drdeath
COLONEL SERVICE STAR 79 (Rank 124)
K/D Ratio 1.07
Accuracy 12.43 %
Headshot Rate 20.76 %
Scores per Minute 331.26
Kill Assists 15.26 %

Assessment (Metabans)

action no assessment
reason -
@cheater_BF3 no assessment
other assessments 0 Bans, 1 Protections

Suspicious Stats

Class Weapon Stats Name Stats Value
Supporter RPK74 Headshot/Kill-Percentage 32.31
Engineer SCAR-H Headshot/Kill-Percentage 34.56
PDW AS VAL Headshot/Kill-Percentage 35.18

My stats on Cheat-o-meter. Also, to be quite honest, I rarely use those guns.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

^ Must be a cheater if cheat-o-meter says so....

I used to join empty servers just to fly around or test weapons, that gave me a high round quit percentage on that stupid cheatmeter. Some butthurt kid looked at that and went "OH I SEE YOU'VE BEEN GETTING KICKED FOR USING YOUR HACKS, YOU CANT FINISH A SINGLE ROUND CAUSE YOUR BOT CRASHES YOUR GAME"


I agree with the notion that it's the lazy whiner's way of getting dirt on people.


>25% Headshot kill ratio on a Sniper rifle is suspicious because of what some german guy says? Sure OK...

This says it all:

http://www.barefootski.net/images/banhammer1.jpg [barefootski.net]

Cheat-o-meter does throw up some anomalies though.
You'll see stats padders with very high hsk %'s flagged all the time. It doesn't mean they're cheating on server, just laming their way through the game. I guess it's up to the Admin involved how they proceed from there.
If there's Admin out there banning for merely suspicious stats and I'd suspect there are, they're not doing it right.

If you're going to use cheat-o-meter, you also need to study their stats, histories and reports on BF3stats before making any kind of judgement.
It's only really good for catching the noob hackers though, those with experience have been able to hide their cheating in their stats very effectively, and for quite some time as the current hacks are that advanced.

The point is cheat-o-meter is useful as a device to point out what stats you need to look more closely at. However, just because it shows some suspicious stats does NOT mean that person is cheating. If someone's damage per m16a3 shot is 90 %, then it is obvious but not such "suspicious" stats as mine show.


Looking at your last post RustedRoot, is it a noob only server ? Maybe they don't want better players to create a newbie friendly server. Though, they should not have added you to metabans if that is the case.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/en/servers/show/0a4a5382-6abc-41bc-908a-813f3f413bbd/Oh-My-Guts-TDM-500-tickets-42p-1p-Sta [battlelog.battlefield.com]

All the bnutt hurt hackers comminmg out in defence of their stats

pozieres said:
All the bnutt hurt hackers comminmg out in defence of their stats

Funny.
Not your comment. Your grammar/spelling skills.

Check out 2Leg1t2QuIt on cheat-o-meter


If your stats look like that ..then you should be worrying.


I have 3 in the yellow and the funny thing is I don't even use those weapons or used them for a bit but don't use them anymore.

It's funny you got a ban for that one.. probably a butt-hurt admin who you mowed down a few times with your M249 and tripod.