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Why people hate/fear the M16A3

DHJenkins
US Enlisted: 2012-09-05
2013-02-20 17:06 , edited 2013-02-20 17:09 by DHJenkins
From a psychological standpoint, it's very simple. It's all about placing/avoiding blame.

Not using the M16A3 is an escape mechanism. It allows the gamer to mitigate the psychological burden of loss by placing the blame on the equipment instead of him or herself. It is a built-in excuse for sub-optimal gameplay.

For example, someone that consistently uses the "second best" equipment can (and usually will) say something like "I didn't perform as well because I'm not using the best equipment" to themselves so that their ego doesn't have to take the full brunt of the failure. In most people, this is entirely involuntary; it's a mixture of the sub-conscious protecting the ego and the fear associated with being judged without the benefit of excuses - like being in a room full of people without the benefit of clothes.

It's also rather selfish, as this is a team game, and as a member of team, it's your responsibility to do the best you can possibly do; intentionally handicapping yourself to the detriment of the team/objective is not teamwork.

And really... "I'm not doing as good as you in-game because I'm actually a better player than you" is just silly.

Oh and "spoken like a true M16A3 n00b" <--- (beat you to it, because that's how predictable you are)
gcmartin
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-02-20 17:09
They hate any gun that kills them
TheRobinGaming
NL Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-02-20 17:10 , edited 2013-02-20 17:10 by TheRobinGaming
Because I have 300spm and 14% accuracy.
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espadaxin2
BR Enlisted: 2012-08-31
2013-02-20 17:12 , edited 2013-02-20 17:13 by espadaxin2
So explain to me Sherlock, why 95% of the pro players in tournaments/scrims use m16 and forget about the rest?
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-DerzFlurgenz-
Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-02-20 17:13 , edited 2013-02-20 17:15 by -DerzFlurgenz-
Pubbing and playing scrims/tournies has really brought to light how incredibly better and easier it is to use the m16a3. But I have found the best way to counter any gun op or not is just being smart about your agility and movement. Don't be a tard and know if you are at odds skip that fight, or don't engage when its stupid too. I use to rage then I used the m16a3 and I still got killed by people using crappy weapons and it was my own fault, not that of another players weapon. I simply got outplayed and didn't use my strengths in that situation. I think if people actually went crazy try-hard they would realize if you just concentrate, work hard and think smart you can do alot of things in this game with even the worst kits.

But I won't deny there is no gun as easy as the m16a3, but, there are alot of guns that if you use them correctly and most of all smartly you can out gun a m16a3 user in most situations. Take the G3a3 for example. Kills in half the amount of well-placed bullets and is deadly at close-mid, mid, and long ranges.
iKonTheHoL0graM
GB Enlisted: 2012-03-25
2013-02-20 17:15 , edited 2013-02-20 17:15 by iKonTheHoL0graM
The M16A3 is the best "all round" gun.

That is a simple fact in this game.

But I do agree with your reasoning.
OP-Norwegian
NO Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-02-20 17:16
It's so balanced.
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StNr-DaM
GB Enlisted: 2011-11-02
2013-02-20 17:16
DHJenkins-vG said:
It's also rather selfish, as this is a team game, and as a member of team, it's your responsibility to do the best you can possibly do; intentionally handicapping yourself to the detriment of the team/objective is not teamwork.


Before I start, let me say I'm not a m16a3 hater. But we all know its one of the better all round guns. But if we all took your statement seriously, we should all be running around with that gun, where would the fun be.

Some of us, like to use different weapons, just to spice it up a bit. Check my gun stats. Sure once I unlocked the m27 IAR it was my main gun when playing support which I played alot with at the start. But I tend to try and change things up a bit more now, sometimes I change for the type of game I'm playing, the situation of the game or even just to try something new.

Its a shame so many people have limited themselves to one gun for most of their time in game.

The same is true for people who have spent most of their time in a jet, tank, helicopter. The beauty of this game is the diversity, there is so much you can do, that you really don't need to be locking yourself into one thing.
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pprob340
GB Enlisted: 2012-03-25
2013-02-20 17:16
Yup, pretty much nailed it on the head. M16 is definately the strongest gun in the game, but my performances only marginally increase when i use it, over a gun like the aug or G3 for example.
cjbrown5541
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-02-20 17:20
Get over yourself with the M16 debate. There is no purpose in creating a psychological root cause analysis of why people dislike the M16. It is not that serious of an issue. Spend your time thinking about something else. I am a casual gamer. I have used the m16 a bit and the game just wasn't fun - simple as that. I prefer other guns over it. It is a good gun - perhaps the best gun, but I like being different. If everyone used it solely - it would be a pretty boring game. I probably prefer a different gun for the same reason that we buy different makes of cars in different colors - because we like variety. If everyone chose their car based on statistics and reliability - everyone would drive a japanese car for 10-15 years. Boring!
UninstalledBF
Enlisted: 2012-12-10
2013-02-20 17:22
People are always looking for excuses for their deaths, and the fact that the M16A3 is the best weapon in the game makes it easier for them to marginalize the skill of their killer and shift the blame for their death to the gun.

Even though it is the best weapon, some people simply find it boring or they get more joy from using certain other weapons.

However, the ones that constantly point out how proud they are for not using the M16A3 are typically players who do not do very well in general, and then, like you said, it makes it easier for them to marginalize their own shortcomings and to shift the blame for their deaths to their inferior equipment.

The reality is, players who are accurate with the M16A3 are also going to be accurate with other weapons, and the ones that struggle with other weapons aren't going to do well with the M16A3 either.
cakes-mA
US Enlisted: 2012-10-23
2013-02-20 17:24
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tuoppix5
FI Enlisted: 2011-10-28
2013-02-20 17:26 , edited 2013-02-20 17:26 by tuoppix5
StNr-DaM said:
Before I start, let me say I'm not a m16a3 hater. But we all know its one of the better all round guns. But if we all took your statement seriously, we should all be running around with that gun, where would the fun be.

Sure, but hating on others who choose to use the best gun is still stupid.
alpherbf
UA Enlisted: 2011-11-15
2013-02-20 17:28 , edited 2013-02-20 17:29 by alpherbf
MEDICS. They need serious nerf. In every mode It's all about medics now. Too much 100 lvl guys with M16A3 with ~50 stars who just revive, revive, revive.

First of all - defib reload time. 15 seconds will be good.
Second - remove M16A3 from the game. And M4/M4A1 from engineer. Because It's stupid. It's just the same weapon with the same textures and attachments. The only difference is fire mode.

They can add 2 new weapons instead this crap. But I very doubt in DICE.
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Zyfnix
BE Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-02-20 17:29
What i don't understand is why they don't make the weapons with the same caliber do equal dmg? the only thing that would different is the range and rpm. Or could i be wrong here?
AdmiralSpliff
GR Enlisted: 2012-07-24
2013-02-20 17:33
TripleOught-mA said:
People are always looking for excuses for their deaths, and the fact that the M16A3 is the best weapon in the game makes it easier for them to marginalize the skill of their killer and shift the blame for their death to the gun.

Even though it is the best weapon, some people simply find it boring or they get more joy from using certain other weapons.

However, the ones that constantly point out how proud they are for not using the M16A3 are typically players who do not do very well in general, and then, like you said, it makes it easier for them to marginalize their own shortcomings and to shift the blame for their deaths to their inferior equipment.

The reality is, players who are accurate with the M16A3 are also going to be accurate with other weapons, and the ones that struggle with other weapons aren't going to do well with the M16A3 either.


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LevelEndBaddie
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-02-20 17:34
-SERAPH1M-009 said:
The M16A3 is the best &quot;all round&quot; gun.

That is a simple fact in this game.

But I do agree with your reasoning.

Doesn't mean it's OP, weapons in this game are like playing Top Trumps if you remove the human input, while the M16 does well in nearly all situations it's not the best in all situations, i've beaten many so called M16 n00bs using other weapons.
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IlIFRENETICIlI
US Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2013-02-20 17:37 , edited 2013-02-20 17:38 by IlIFRENETICIlI
I don't fear the M16XXX, they should fear the AEK instead. Given 2 equal players the faster cycle of the AEK will win out over time (the math), hence it's better suited to the Battlefield...

Disclosure: I am _INCREDIBLY_ biased on the AEK (Check stats - lol), but 'the math' still works out...
Drungly
NL Enlisted: 2012-07-28
2013-02-20 17:38
I don't blame the players for using it, but I blame DICE for making a gun as all round as that. There should be a trade off as with the rest of the guns.
Severe__Noobness
MX Enlisted: 2011-11-05
2013-02-20 17:40 , edited 2013-02-20 17:41 by Severe__Noobness
I will go SCAR, AK74M or A91 most of the time. However, if the amount of M16 tryhards is too high, I will pull out the AEK to counter them noobs. Simple as that. No need to argue.