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AMD & Mantle - BF4 Partner for Best Performance!

SquatDeep
CA Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 10:48
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/09/26/amd-announce-mantle-a-direct-access-graphics-api-that-will-debut-in-battlefield-4/ [pcgamer.com]
http://bf4central.com/2013/07/battlefield-4-amd-optimized/ [bf4central.com]



AMD is the official partner with DICE for Battlefield 4 and the official GPUs of Battlefield 4. They have a custom technology developed for Battlefield 4 called Mantle. It's a custom render path designed to increase performance and make the maximum use of AMD GPUs only. It's coming as an update to BF4 in December and will work with any AMD GCN based Radeon card; the AMD 7XXX series cards already out and the new AMD R9 2XX series cards releasing on October 15th. So when you run BF4 using an AMD GCN Radeon card you will not use DX11, but can choose to use Mantle instead. A fully custom AMD specific render path for maximum performance.

Already we are hearing the new AMD R9 290X destroys the nvidia gtx Titan in Battlefield 4 using AMD's custom Mantle API.

http://www.maximumpc.com/amd_r9_290x_will_be_much_faster_titan_battlefield_4 [maximumpc.com]

'“with Battlefield 4 running with Mantle (AMD’s new graphics API), the card will be able to ‘ridicule’ the Titan in terms of performance.” '

AMD has also developed some crazy new crossfire technology to boost performance on their new R9 29X cards that no longer needs the crossfire bridge!

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2311/0pe3.jpg [img713.imageshack.us]

Once Mantle support is added in December, it's game over for nvidia. Nvidia cards will only run DX11 in BF4 like they do now in BF3, with the standard NVAPI tweaks that are already being used in BF3, no custom API support and they are not the official partner for BF4 like AMD is.

Looks like AMD is the card to get for BF4. AMD for best Battlefield 4 performance. Only AMD cards support Mantle, Mantle for best Battlefield 4 performance! AMD for best BF4 performance!

Crazy stuff, as Battlefield 4 is my main game I am dumping my 2 GTX 780s on the used market and getting a pair of AMD R9 290Xs for maximum Battlefield 4 performance.
TheDtuned
AU Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 10:57
what resolution do you play at?
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Chuck_Mawhinn3y
US Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:00
i dont believe my pair of 780's will lack any performance.
http://www.twitch.tv/chuckmawhinn3y
Snake3169
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-09-30 11:01
Yawn
Premium Player trolololol.
ep91pig666eon
IE Enlisted: 2011-11-03
2013-09-30 11:06
amd will be partnering with most games now since they have the contract for the ps4/xone devs will be making use of the majority platforms now its the nvidia stuff that will be getting the second optimization

snake great comment, your cool meter just went up a notch
stefan5rovic
RS Enlisted: 2012-09-04
2013-09-30 11:06
Go away troll
antiHUMANDesigns
SE Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:08
Yeah, good luck with that. Best wishes.
I think, therefore I am, I think.
322_OMEGA_322
Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:09
bf3 was partner with nvidia....amd were working just fine with bf3
will be the same with bf4
AlienAforceOne
HU Enlisted: 2012-06-08
2013-09-30 11:10
I use only the Direct Cu2 version videocards.
Drungly
NL Enlisted: 2012-07-28
2013-09-30 11:10 , edited 2013-09-30 11:12 by Drungly
JamesTCoconuts said:
Once Mantle support is added in December, it's game over for nvidia. Nvidia cards will only run DX11 in BF4 like they do now in BF3, with the standard NVAPI tweaks that are already being used in BF3, no custom API support and they are not the official partner for BF4 like AMD is.


Not a single benchmark was shown and this is already concluded? Some people are so easily influenced, it's unbelievable. I wonder if this will be the same story as with the new consoles being 3 times faster than a gaming PC.

I'm bookmarking this thread OP so I can come back and hit you in the head a couple of times with my udders if this is going to be another fluke.
Hae-Joo-Chang
Enlisted: 2013-08-25
2013-09-30 11:13
Lol it's only to optimize their poor AMD hardware, NVIDIA customers should never worry your cards are top notch
[GTX 680]
Blood5ta1n
RO Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-09-30 11:14
Drungly said:
JamesTCoconuts said:
Once Mantle support is added in December, it's game over for nvidia. Nvidia cards will only run DX11 in BF4 like they do now in BF3, with the standard NVAPI tweaks that are already being used in BF3, no custom API support and they are not the official partner for BF4 like AMD is.
Not a single benchmark was shown and this is already concluded? Some people are so easily influenced, it's unbelievable. I wonder if this will be the same story as with the new consoles being 3 times faster than a gaming PC.

I'm bookmarking this thread OP so I can come back and hit you in the head a couple of times with my udders if this is going to be another fluke.



3 times faster than a 5 year old pc maybe ?
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SryForWinning
AU Enlisted: 2013-04-29
2013-09-30 11:16
inb4 gpuboost and shadowing and ultratitan that costs $1,500.
ep91pig666eon
IE Enlisted: 2011-11-03
2013-09-30 11:23
no one said that the nvidia cards wont work with bf4, what was said is that the new amd card is better than titan and dice have partnered with amd so bf4 will have the best performance with the new tech

whoever listened to the ps4 is 3 times faster than pc is just as stupid as the person who said it in the first place, people say daft shit all the time but to use it as i told you so is just as retarded, my dog knows that this would never be the case

it was only inevitable that devs were going to focus on whoever was making consoles since its like 70% of their sales, if amd have there tech in all 3 and nvidia/intel are only in the one the obvious choice is to work with amd hardware and teak it for nvidia/intel. nvidia/intel are the better tech no question but now that there are going to be optimised for amd in the future i can see that gap disappearing and amd will still have the cheaper option. we should also see better performances from amds 6-8 core cpus now that they will start to work with multi threading past 4 cores which will leave intels gaming 4 cores lacking and core speed per thread unfavourable over the extra indv cores that amd will be using
SquatDeep
CA Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:28
I don't fanboy for either company. Have used both and was using nvidia until hearing and seeing the new developments. Nvidia has screwed up and lost their developer relations to AMD. AMD has cornered the new consoles getting their hardware in them both and now has all the new big games, BF4, Crysis 3 etc.

Now they have Mantle for superior performance and the new R9 290X coming out soon. Nvidia has slipped. Maybe they will get it together for BF5, game over for them on BF4 though.
Cirap
SE Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:28
threads like these always attract fanboys. I have a GCN card myself (7970) so I of course have high hopes for this and I will check it out. Time will tell if it looks equally good to DX11 and how it performs, otherwise I can always go back to DX11.

Anywho... Mantle is an open API. Nvidia can add support to their own cards if they so choose. Of course they won't have software ready for BF4 anytime soon, but to say only AMD cards are supported is a bit misleading
antiHUMANDesigns
SE Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-30 11:31
JamesTCoconuts said:
I don't fanboy for either company. Have used both and was using nvidia until hearing and seeing the new developments. Nvidia has screwed up and lost their developer relations to AMD. AMD has cornered the new consoles getting their hardware in them both and now has all the new big games, BF4, Crysis 3 etc.

Now they have Mantle for superior performance and the new R9 290X coming out soon. Nvidia has slipped. Maybe they will get it together for BF5, game over for them on BF4 though.


From what I've read, "Mantle" is based on a DX11.2 feature. It's not AMD's technology, they simply adapted it, probably so that they could release it sooner than M$ releases DX11.2.
And anyone thinking that Mantle is going to make a huge difference and buys AMD, before actually having seen any such evidence, is a moron in my opinion.
I think, therefore I am, I think.
THELANKANCOMRADE
US Enlisted: 2012-06-02
2013-09-30 11:31 , edited 2013-09-30 11:32 by THELANKANCOMRADE
We dont care ..... we are geared up for BETA dont have time to listen to your failed attempts at trolling!
Drungly
NL Enlisted: 2012-07-28
2013-09-30 11:34 , edited 2013-09-30 11:35 by Drungly
JamesTCoconuts said:
Now they have Mantle for superior performance and the new R9 290X coming out soon. Nvidia has slipped. Maybe they will get it together for BF5, game over for them on BF4 though.


Again you're making things up as you go. There hasn't been a single benchmark showing anything and yet you magically decide that Nvidia has slipped. What's your source? BF4 hasn't even been released yet and you already know it's game over for Nvidia?
ep91pig666eon
IE Enlisted: 2011-11-03
2013-09-30 11:46
Drungly said:
JamesTCoconuts said:
Now they have Mantle for superior performance and the new R9 290X coming out soon. Nvidia has slipped. Maybe they will get it together for BF5, game over for them on BF4 though.
Again you're making things up as you go. There hasn't been a single benchmark showing anything and yet you magically decide that Nvidia has slipped. What's your source? BF4 hasn't even been released yet and you already know it's game over for Nvidia?


the amd conference is where all of this is coming from it was livestreamed the other day, and everything said above came from amd so if they said it publicly then they must have the numbers to back it up
 
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