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Are PDWs terrible and pointless in the game?

AcesTwo
IL Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 08:24
Discuss
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Fearpoint1
US Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 08:50
Pretty much

They don't excel at anything, but can still be enjoyable to use none the less.
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AcesTwo
IL Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 08:53 , edited 2013-09-27 08:53 by AcesTwo
Fearpoint1 said:
Pretty much

They don't excel at anything, but can still be enjoyable to use none the less.


tbh I wouldn't mind having them if the PDW was a secondary weapon (instead of pistols) for recons who carry sniper rifles.
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Smaisteri
FI Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-09-27 08:53
At least all of them look horrible. Reason enough not to use them.
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Billydoc1
GR Enlisted: 2012-01-31
2013-09-27 08:53
no....i love them
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piklioto
BG Enlisted: 2011-10-28
2013-09-27 08:54
they are better than shotguns?
AcesTwo
IL Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 08:55
Smaisteri said:
At least all of them look horrible. Reason enough not to use them.


http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/a/magpul-aeg-09-pdr_1_mark.jpg [shop.ehobbyasia.com]
Good point
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Billydoc1
GR Enlisted: 2012-01-31
2013-09-27 08:55
BGpiklioto said:
they are better than shotguns?

overall yes...better
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MackTKau
AU Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-09-27 08:57
Are PDWs terrible and pointless in the game?


No.

The best PDW's are used for close range fast ROF hip-firing.

MP7/MP5K + Laser + Extendo Mags.
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AcesTwo
IL Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 08:58
Billydoc1 said:
BGpiklioto said:
they are better than shotguns?
overall yes...better


I don't think so bro.
Stats don't matter in this aspect. To be effective with the PDW you have to sneak up on somebody and then spray him with a big part of your mag, while the shotgun is a one/two shot kill from a bit closer distance.
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Polaxis
UA Enlisted: 2011-11-25
2013-09-27 09:04
It`s all about speed and handling.
PDW = fast shooting, accurate at close range, weak stopping power.
Shotguns = slow shooting, lower accuracy, strong stopping power.

Both weapon types are good depending on player`s skill, type of gameplay, map selection, etc.
Fearpoint1
US Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 09:13
MackTKau said:
Are PDWs terrible and pointless in the game?
No.

The best PDW's are used for close range fast ROF hip-firing.

MP7/MP5K + Laser + Extendo Mags.


Nah. I use both a lot and rarely does the rate of fire equate in a kill over another weapon like the m16.

All class weapons make PDW's pretty obsolete novelty weapon and with Battlefield's caliber damage model doesn't make it excel at close range over weapons that excel at long range.
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AcesTwo
IL Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 09:19
Fearpoint1 said:
MackTKau said:
Are PDWs terrible and pointless in the game?
No.

The best PDW's are used for close range fast ROF hip-firing.

MP7/MP5K + Laser + Extendo Mags.
Nah. I use both a lot and rarely does the rate of fire equate in a kill over another weapon like the m16.

All class weapons make PDW's pretty obsolete novelty weapon and with Battlefield's caliber damage model doesn't make it excel at close range over weapons that excel at long range.


That's why DICE should do some range sweet spot for every weapon
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MackTKau
AU Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-09-27 09:21
The ROF doesn't just come from the actual gun. It comes from having accurate hipfire (I suppose a better term would be "time to engage" or something), while other guns have to ADS to aim properly.

That said, I only use them in Engineer kit.

I prefer taking an MP7 as my engineer gun these days. The other kits I use other guns.
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Fearpoint1
US Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-09-27 09:25
AcesTwo said:
Fearpoint1 said:
MackTKau said:
Are PDWs terrible and pointless in the game?
No.

The best PDW's are used for close range fast ROF hip-firing.

MP7/MP5K + Laser + Extendo Mags.
Nah. I use both a lot and rarely does the rate of fire equate in a kill over another weapon like the m16.

All class weapons make PDW's pretty obsolete novelty weapon and with Battlefield's caliber damage model doesn't make it excel at close range over weapons that excel at long range.
That's why DICE should do some range sweet spot for every weapon


Yup.

Would allow for better weapon roles and significantly improved unique weapon balance even within the same category.
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Snottbucket1
AU Enlisted: 2011-12-28
2013-09-27 09:26
Best PDW is the AS Val with extended mags but that isn't even a PDW, It's a Assault Rifle I think.
Snake3169
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-09-27 09:26
PDWs are more effective at longer range than a shotgun, but less effective than a carbine at a bit of the middle range.. than the LMG takes over at the middle and fails to the assault rifle at the middle to long range.. than at long range comes the DMR and lastly is the Sniper rifle
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Aserth36
GB Enlisted: 2012-02-04
2013-09-27 10:09
No, but they're much more pointless now the AS Vals not there :'(
Fredex
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-28
2013-09-27 10:12
I really don't understand the class weapons at all this time round. Engineers have PDWs whilst anyone can have a carbine. All the snipers are bolt action but anyone can use the spam rifles. Assault rifles have always felt so similar to carbines anyway... only the support have a properly unique weapon selection.

It's one step away from dissolving the classes entirely and letting people run around waving chainsaws at each other. We'll see if the system works though...
Evil_D3m0n
NL Enlisted: 2012-02-29
2013-09-27 10:28 , edited 2013-09-27 10:29 by Evil_D3m0n
I guess they come with the tightest hipfire.