Prevent noobtubing by adding airburst? (BF4)

Ortega_King
NO Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2013-10-09 21:54 , edited 2013-10-09 21:59 by Ortega_King
So, in Battlefield Bad company 2 noobtubing was a huge problem, almost everyone used Carl Gustav and m203. At that time it delivered an instant kill.
In Battlefield 3 they nerfed all Rpg and grenade launchers, if your health where at 100 percent and it would do an direct impact you would still be alive (unless it was a headshot)
but, they added frag rounds to shotguns... so the nerfing of launchers failed hard. USAS with frag was an LAV on two legs.
so they nerfed USAS to only being able to loot it randomly on the map in Battlefield 4. So the noobtubing is finally over right?
No, they added Airburst wich basically is an auto m320 launcher. What is going on DICE?!
I know it's too late to remove it, but it seriously need nerfed in fire rate or decrease the magazine capacity. Everyone
is starting to use it in general, for close and sniping, yeah it also works like a frickin' sniper. Increase the drop on that weapon.

Something has to be done in my opinion. Too much noobtubing is back where it started.
Rand0mwarrior
AT Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-10-09 21:56
haha you lost when you have said that the airburst is an noob tube

these are complete different weapons and the XM-25 takes more skill to use it right than the noob-tube ever could
http://fixthenetcode.com/
Mystic-Knob
BE Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-10-09 21:57
yeah the airburst is godly versus snipers hide glitching behind a rock or something
bf3 certainly could use such a gun
Rand0mwarrior
AT Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-10-09 21:59
and by the way, the xm-25 is my #1 weapon not only becouse i know how to use that weapon

its becouse the satisfying feeling when you kill rooftop campers and normal campers and how they cry in forums to nerf that weapon ( like you do )
http://fixthenetcode.com/
Duhlish
US Enlisted: 2012-08-18
2013-10-09 22:00
Rand0mwarrior said:
and by the way, the xm-25 is my #1 weapon not only becouse i know how to use that weapon

its becouse the satisfying feeling when you kill rooftop campers and normal campers and how they cry in forums to nerf that weapon ( like you do )


Pretty sure he's talking about the roof campers using such guns.
Gaiden206
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-10-09 22:02 , edited 2013-10-09 22:03 by Gaiden206
I love airburst... It's the only defense ground soldiers have against snipers camping high on sky scraper roof tops.. . I dont know if it's the map or what but I'm getting killed way more by snipers and vehicles from ridiculous distances compared to BF3 so airbust is a godsend for now..
Rand0mwarrior
AT Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-10-09 22:03
Duhlish said:
Rand0mwarrior said:
and by the way, the xm-25 is my #1 weapon not only becouse i know how to use that weapon

its becouse the satisfying feeling when you kill rooftop campers and normal campers and how they cry in forums to nerf that weapon ( like you do )
Pretty sure he's talking about the roof campers using such guns.

well than snipe em down or get up there and kill him OR use an xm-25 and kill him or use a chopper and kill him
or
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http://fixthenetcode.com/
Silentwindofdoom
Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-10-09 22:06
There used to be a weapon in a game called Battlefield 2142. It was a lot like the XM25 only it was a weapon attachment. One of the differences is that it did not explode when it hit a surface, it only exploded when reaching the range it was set to explode at. It was useless as a direct fire weapon but very potent at killing campers.

Dice would do well to consider adopting this before considering adjusting the damage, number or speed of the projectile.
britisharmysas
GB Enlisted: 2011-10-28
2013-10-09 22:07
Here we go again the nerf squad going to start to ruin bf4 after they managed to ruin bf3.
Jazman2k
FI Enlisted: 2011-12-10
2013-10-09 22:07 , edited 2013-10-09 22:11 by Jazman2k
Not an issue. XM25 is very bad at close range and take about 4 shots to kill anyone in full health. It's fantastic weapon for some roof cleaning operations. M320 is way more powerful than XM25.

More info about that wonderful weapon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE [en.wikipedia.org]
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RoninRick831
Enlisted: 2013-10-01
2013-10-09 22:07
What a fool. The XM-25 is anything but noob. It's purpose is to GET RID OF noobs camping rooftops with their precious sniper rifles. You aim it at a target and it AIRBURSTS 3 meters beyond that so you can get indirect fire on BKs like you.

And yes, most people don't know how to use it and just direct fire it, but thankfully the damage isn't as high as a regular grenade. I would guess somewhere around 30 damage. seems to take about 4 shots to kill most of the time. So certainly not overpowered. Not the new "Usas Frags". Sorry.
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The_Wall_Crawler
US Enlisted: 2013-08-18
2013-10-09 22:14
Pretty much every Domination match now is 3 or 4 people on the roof with the XM-25. It's pretty pathetic.
Rand0mwarrior
AT Enlisted: 2011-10-27
2013-10-09 22:15
The_Wall_Crawler said:
Pretty much every Domination match now is 3 or 4 people on the roof with the XM-25. It's pretty pathetic.

just use an xm-25 and shoot them down ?
is it really that hard ? jesus christ
http://fixthenetcode.com/
0verD0se8
RU Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-10-09 22:18 , edited 2013-10-09 22:27 by 0verD0se8
If hm 25 would be op then we would not have seen hundreds of doctors and recons. all ran to support this thing. And what do we see? on the contrary very few plays that class, cartridges do not interrogate. So what is your next whining. Let's remove ak 12, let skarn that with one shot kills. Let us finally can not play battlefield because there is no balance. Stop whining . Because of you whiners, what hands of assholes grow, half good games died. And I think that now the balance is very well set up. They really have learned from BF 3. In addition to RPG fire. And need up armor .
Tehterokkar
FI Enlisted: 2011-12-24
2013-10-09 22:19
Spoiler alert: Airburst is only usable by 1 class, which has been the worst class in BF2, BF3 and now BF4. If you are willing to sacrifice having things like: Medpack/"Noobtube"/Defibs or AT Mines/RPG/Javeling/Stinger/Repair Torch or Motion Sensor/C4/PLD/MAV(?).

I think the choice is fairly obvious, most vehicle maps heavily favor the Engineering class, not only because of being able to make the armor run away, but also can destroy walls etc. Assault has the "Noobtube", which is very effective against light vehicles and shooting at clusters, and also taking down walls. Recon has C4, which imo, is the best gadget there is. C4 is too versatile(C4 bomb cars, traps, sneaky-sneaky action on a tank).

TL;DR: Support is still shit in comparison to other classes.
Ya'll mad.
veikkose_
Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-10-09 22:23
Also the ammocount of xm-25 will make the ammobox almost a mandatory second perk to have.
The_Wall_Crawler
US Enlisted: 2013-08-18
2013-10-09 22:23
Rand0mwarrior said:
The_Wall_Crawler said:
Pretty much every Domination match now is 3 or 4 people on the roof with the XM-25. It's pretty pathetic.
just use an xm-25 and shoot them down ?
is it really that hard ? jesus christ


I'm not asking for it to be nerfed. I don't care. Especially not in a beta. I just find it ridiculous that people claim that it's such a skillful weapon when all they do is rain down shells from the roof, then those same people complain about snipers on a roof.

Can't have it both ways.
TheMorpf
DE Enlisted: 2011-10-26
2013-10-09 22:28
This weapon is fine. Never was harassed by it really. I think I could count on two hands how many times I was killed by an XM25 even though I played well more than 20 hrs. yet.
Zipperbag
US Enlisted: 2011-10-25
2013-10-09 22:29
Tehterokkar said:
Spoiler alert: Airburst is only usable by 1 class, which has been the worst class in BF2, BF3 and now BF4. If you are willing to sacrifice having things like: Medpack/"Noobtube"/Defibs or AT Mines/RPG/Javeling/Stinger/Repair Torch or Motion Sensor/C4/PLD/MAV(?).

I think the choice is fairly obvious, most vehicle maps heavily favor the Engineering class, not only because of being able to make the armor run away, but also can destroy walls etc. Assault has the "Noobtube", which is very effective against light vehicles and shooting at clusters, and also taking down walls. Recon has C4, which imo, is the best gadget there is. C4 is too versatile(C4 bomb cars, traps, sneaky-sneaky action on a tank).

TL;DR: Support is still shit in comparison to other classes.



Edit: post is missing "/thread"
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0verD0se8
RU Enlisted: 2011-10-24
2013-10-09 22:30
The_Wall_Crawler said:
Pretty much every Domination match now is 3 or 4 people on the roof with the XM-25. It's pretty pathetic.

This mode is for those who do not care about what happens there. There is important meat. So it's not important. The basis of this conquest.