A THUD is an ECHO without the reverb. All i ask is be RESPECTful to one another and a good TEAM player. TOOLs and PADS, use them DON'T BE THEM. Things that go "THUD" Our Enemies go "THUD" Anyone can go "THUD" and YES even YOU can go "THUD" Send me an request. Which ever your path, it will be filled.